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February 3rd, 2008 · 52 Comments · Miseducation

If you’ve been following KOMU’s biased and misleading series, Combating Autism from Within, then you’re probably expecting nothing to come from the justifiable outrage expressed by evidence-based critics of the University of Missouri affiliated station. If you haven’t been following, then you should start, because this sad tale speaks to the larger problem with the way journalism is taught, even at the nation’s better schools.

KOMU reporter Ashley Reynolds, who is also a undergraduate student in the university’s school of journalism, says she first reported on autism last summer. That’s when she interviewed a local pediatrician, Judith Miles, MD, PhD, about a published study that found no support for the thimerosal-autism hypothesis.

The interview was met with howls of protest from all the usual suspects – agenda driven anti-vaccine activists, bio-med marketers, and other dead enders. Apparently, their emails and phone calls made an impression, enough so that Reynolds followed up with a “six month investigation” into autism. She recruited other journalism undergrads, who drove around the midwest for several weeks last fall interviewing families and “controversial researchers”. The result is a 14-part infomercial for wishful thinking.

What went wrong at KOMU? I put this question to a friend of mine, a former communications professor with ties to Columbia. Here’s her take: “Undergrads do not know the difference between investigating something and kinda thinking about it. I am sure that they Googled the topic, picked the top hits, printed them out and ‘reported’ on them six months later.”

This sounds about right. If the reporters learned anything about the science of autism, they’ve kept it to themselves.

My contact predicts that the dean of the journalism school will circle the wagons and “fight tooth and nail to protect their paying customers – the students.” Journalism school is considered a safe haven for student experimentation. Standards of conduct such as critical thinking, reliance on real evidence, and awareness of confirmation bias will be ignored when they stand in the way of Geraldo-style voyeurism.

But j-school is about to run smack into real life, as word comes that some physicians at the University of Missouri’s medical school are asking for a word with the journalism dean and the grown ups in charge of KOMU. This action mirrors a recent trend of physicians, public health officials, and major media outlets speaking against agenda-driven anti-vaccine activitists. Last week, Dr. Nancy Minshew, a leading autism researcher, said that autism is not caused by vaccinations, and “those who continue to push that theory are endangering the lives of children and misdirecting the nation’s scarce resources for autism research.” The New York Times editorialized last week against Eli Stone, an ABC “dramedy” that pushed a storyline that linked flu shots and autism:

Never mind that such authoritative bodies as the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization have found no evidence of a causal link. Never mind that the incidence of autism continued to rise even after mercury preservatives were phased out of almost all childhood vaccines. As far as Eli Stone is concerned, you can’t just rely on science. Sometimes you have to go on faith.

If Columbia’s School of Journalism takes its responsibilities seriously, and I have no reason to believe it doesn’t, then it will salvage a teachable moment from this train wreck. Some helpful suggestions, courtesy of the academic quoted above:

Strengthen the college’s science reporting with a seminar or a special class. Sports reporters are expected to be steeped in athletics. Weatherpersons study meteorology. So why shouldn’t reporters who report medical issues be expected to understand how science works?

Forge a partnership between the journalism school and the medical college, so the next time students get an urge to take an alt-med road trip, they can interview the knowledgeable researchers next door instead of traveling out-state to fawn over conspiracy-minded provocateurs and other cranks.

Whatever decision the dean makes, the focus should be on education and not on undergrad students getting it wrong. There will be plenty of time for career suicide later in life.

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  • 1 Kristina Chew // Feb 3, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    Another unfortunate example of how research at “Google U” provides a thorough mis-education.

    In my own teaching of undergraduates (I used to teach freshman composition), I noted that they had a lot of trouble distinguishing between opinion and information (especially on a webpage), and between information and knowledge. They tended to judge the quality of their “research” by its quantity (and then there were the long lessons I devoted to teaching them to cite webpage sources correctly……).

  • 2 Elaine Dow // Feb 3, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Thanks for the honest reporting on autism. My son is 85% better after doing bio-medical for mercury poisoning. He was exposed to 237 and one half micrograms of mercury in his vaccines. The vaccine program needs to safety tested and the public needs to see the Vaers file on all the adverse affects of the vaccine ingredients. In Maryland they gave a friend of mine’s child mercury containing vaccines until October 2004. Hospitals even give vaccines to infants in PKU units. Fifty years from now the history books will contain this chapter of the poisoning of children by federal and state health officials and the AAP. State medicaid programs are investigating “Big Pharma” and pediatricians for drugging children with RX not approved for children. Millions of dollars in payments were made for anti-psychotic, antidepressants and seizures medications given to kids. Autistic children have no labs done, only drugged. The school boards are broke and so are the children. One in three is damaged with asthma, ADD/HD, autism, seizures, hearing and speech damage, arthritis, etc. These are all symptoms of mercury poisoning and the they got it from the vaccines. Parents want to see the secret adverse affects file kept by the CDC. Thanks again. The vaccine agenda is as rediculous as the lobotomy, hailed as a cure for mental illness and the use of cocaine in the late 1800’s. Both were indorsed by the medical profession. Elaine

  • 3 Ms. Frederickson // Feb 3, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    “bio-med marketers, and other dead enders” “infomercial for wishful thinking”

    I am the parent of a child on the Autism Spectrum Disorder. My childs life is being turned around through diet, allergy testing and supplements. I believe what I am doing is what you refer to as “bio-med” and “wishful thinking”. Maybe YOU need an education BEFORE insulting a young journalist who is in the learning process. THANK GOD for “google U” as it helped me find the help for my child that many others do not seem to believe in or understand.

  • 4 Club 166 // Feb 3, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    I have been following this story as it is somewhat in my backyard.

    Dr. Miles (who was interviewed initially) is not just a local pediatrician, but an MD/PhD professor at the University of Missouri and an associate director at the Thompson Center for Autism and Neurodevelopmental Disorders at the University of Missouri.

    The journalism school has been a well respected one in the past, but I guess one can’t expect (in a world where ‘professional’ journalists have gotten lazy) that the students there would adhere to professional journalistic principles.

    The students stated initially that they were looking for public reaction, but it became obvious quickly that they were only looking for those that agreed with their preconceived notions, and didn’t want to listen to facts.

    Joe

  • 5 isles // Feb 4, 2008 at 12:37 am

    A-fricking-MEN!

    Elaine Dow…really, really not getting it. A few points.

    1. The ethylmercury in vaccines is only toxic in extremely high doses – hundreds of times greater than what is contained in a vaccine – and recent research shows that it exits the body so rapidly that there is no accumulation of mercury from dose to dose.

    2. Vaccines are extensively safety-tested.

    3. VAERS reports may make various claims about events associated with vaccines, but they do not purport to prove that those events were caused by vaccines.

    4. None of the standard childhood vaccines contained thimerosal in 2004. Because public health authorities realized not enough was known about its safety, it was discontinued in a process that started in 1999 and was finished in 2002.

    5. Your complaints about other areas of medicine have nothing to do with vaccines, except insofar as they may play into what appears to be your general level of paranoia.

    6. Mercury poisoning has an easily recognizable clinical presentation which does not mimic autism, ADHD, asthma, seizures, or arthritis.

    Ms. Frederickson: Step away from the computer. It is because of “journalists” who lack any kind of sophistication or judgment that people like you think a “Google Ph.D.” equips them with real expertise.

  • 6 Barbie's Cuter Little Sister // Feb 4, 2008 at 2:56 am

    Poor Ashley-Britney her widdle head might expwode if you twied to put too much sciency stuff into it. Science is HARD!
    http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1173123
    I hope the journalism school dean gets her head handed to her on a platter.

  • 7 Club 166 // Feb 4, 2008 at 6:00 am

    As I follow this story I also wonder if-since both the ‘reporters’ and the (basically mainstream) Thompson Center are located within the same university system-these reporters are making the classic mistake of confusing rebelling against authority with maturity.

    By rebelling against ‘The Establishment’ within their own university system they might feel that they are being edgy, hip, dangerous, and so very cool. Unfortunately they aren’t Woodward and Bernstein, and this isn’t Watergate.

    I wished they had stuck to purple hair and loud obnoxious music instead.

    Joe

  • 8 Dad Fourkids // Feb 4, 2008 at 6:04 am

    Actually, thimerosal has been found to be toxic at levels comparable to the bolus exposures routinely given children during the 90’s. Documents obtained through discovery found Merck knew there was a problem in 1991, and Eli Lilly (patent holder of thimerosal) knew that thimerosal in vaccines could make children “retarded” in the early 80’s, when the exposure was less than 1/3 the children in the 90’s faced.

    Neither of the two studies on ethyl mercury blood levels determined that thimerosal “exits the body rapidly”. In fact, if you read through the entire paper by Burbacher, you will find that actually thimerosal deposits a much higher amount of inorganic mercury into the brain, where it takes considerably longer time to clear the body than mercury in the blood.

    Your statement that NONE of the standard childhood vaccines contained thimerosal in 2004 is false for two reasons: the flu vaccine was added, with a full dose of thierosal as preservative, and thimerosal is STILL being used in the manufacturing process and some remains in the final product.

    It is the constant parroting of mistatements made by those who profit from vaccines and do not wish to face liability or by those who place erradicating viruses over the safety of individuals which causes the “anti-vaccinologists” to continue their vocal outcry.

    Prior to the introduction of the NVICP, both the CDC and the Big Pharma refused to admit that vaccines can actually kill babies who have physiological weaknesses. Supposedly, Congress started the NVICP to prevent unwarranted lawsuits. Since 1987, the US has payed out over $1.5 B for these deaths and injuries that do not occur, with the average award being less than $250K for lifetime injuries and $75K for wrongful death.

    And in 2001, the CDC did acknowldge that the DTwP was indeed associated with the death of infants, something they had staunchly denied for more than a decade previous. It is interesting to note that FOIA found that as many awards were made for children who died from the MMR and HepB as the DTwP, but the CDC won’t acknowledge that fact either.

  • 9 isles // Feb 4, 2008 at 11:35 am

    Dad Fourkids:

    You are in error when you say that thimerosal has been found to be toxic at the levels contained in vaccines. Present evidence if you have it, but I do not believe that such evidence exists.

    You are also in error when you say that ethylmercury does not exit the body rapidly. The proportion of brain mercury which is the inorganic form is irrelevant to this point.

    Influenza vaccine is not generally required for school attendance and a minority of children receive it. It is beneficial for all children for whom it is not contraindicated, but it should not be considered part of the traditional vaccine schedule.

    The amounts of ethylmercury in trace-thimerosal products – those in which thimerosal is used during manufacturing, then removed – is comparable to the EPA standard for mercury in drinking water.

    Let me edit one of your claims for accuracy: “It is the constant parroting of misstatements made by those who profit from gullible parents or by those who place their paranoia about government conspiracies over the safety of individuals which causes the “anti-vaccinologists” to continue their vocal outcry.”

    No one has ever denied that in extremely rare circumstances, vaccine injuries have occurred. The truth is that vaccines prevent illness and death on such an overwhelming scale that it is in society’s best interest to provide generous and speedy compensation to those who have any indication of possibly having been harmed. This means that some unfounded claims will be paid.

  • 10 nhokkanen // Feb 4, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    MERCURY TOXICITY at EXTREMELY LOW LEVELS

    0.5 parts per billion ( ppb) mercury = Kills human neuroblastoma cells (Parran et al., Toxicol Sci 2005; 86: 132-140).

    2 ppb mercury = U.S. EPA limit for drinking water (http://www.epa.gov/safewater/contaminants/index.html#mcls).

    20 ppb mercury = Neurite membrane structure destroyed (Leong et al.,Neuroreport 2001; 12: 733-37).

    200 ppb mercury = level in liquid the EPA classifies as hazardous waste (http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/hazwaste/mercury/regs.htm#hazwaste)

    600 ppb mercury = Level in a currently licensed Hepatitis B, multi-dose vaccine vial, labeled as trace. This is administered at birth.

    2,000 ppb mercury = 0.50-mL injections of Thimerosal-containing vaccines (FDA CBER’s definition of “trace”).

    25,000 ppb mercury = Concentration of mercury in multi-dose, Hepatitis B vaccine vials, administered at birth from 1990-2000 in the U.S. Not administered at birth in any other developed country.

    50,000 ppb mercury = Concentration of mercury in DTaP and Haemophilus B vaccine administered 8 times in the 1990’s to children at 2, 4, 6, 12 and 18 months of age. Current “preservative” level mercury in flu, meningococcal and tetanus (7 and older) vaccines.

  • 11 isles // Feb 4, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    Toxicity to humans, dear Nancy. I did not imagine I would have to specify that.

    With all the citations of which I suppose you are so proud, you have not demonstrated toxicity in humans. Actual biochemists seem to see the situation differently than you do.

    If what happens to cells isolated under a microscope were directly translatable to what happens in the actual human body, the world would be rife with wonder drugs. It ain’t that simple.

  • 12 Joseph // Feb 4, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    Again with the ppb. People who post about mercury ppb apparently never understand what it means. For example, if I have 1 microgram of water, and add 1 microgram of mercury to it, I now have a solution with 500,000,000 ppb mercury. That’s a lot, right? Yet, I would have no problem ingesting this 500-million ppb solution. I’d only get 1 microgram of mercury.

    The dose is what matters. The ppb need to be understood in the proper context (e.g. drinking water).

  • 13 Elaine Dow // Feb 4, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    What the pediatricians don’t know is how vaccines work. They tell us vaccines stimulate the immune system. That is not correct, vaccines turn on the immune system and hope the system will develope acquired immunity. When multiple vaccines are given on one day along with the poison mercury, the immune system can have a distorted response. Mercury suppresses the immune system so the child cannot develop the correct immune response. Imagine you were given nine homework assignments on one day along with a substance that made you toxic. How many of the assignments would you finish correctly. One, maybe three, maybe five, maybe none at all. That is what happened to the kids. Alot of these children were given vaccines also when they were sick with a natural infection. These children cannot handle all of this instruction, it was too overwelming for their little bodies. In nature you would never be exposed to measles, mumps, and rubella at the same time. They happpened at different time through the year so combining that vaccine into one was ludicrious. I did not learn my science from the internet, I got a freshman college biochemistry book and many other college books and the first thing it old me about mercury poisoning is it reduces the production of glutathione. Glutathione makes sodium bicarbonate and secretin and also is an ingredient in insulin production. The pediatrician don’t know anything about gastrointerology, how digestion and absorbtion work, amino acids I really think the college has limited them to vaccines and selling pills to kids, not about how the body works. They know nothing about heavy metals. To think that a blood test indicates mercury retention is stupid. It is not in the blood, it is in the cells, damaging RNA and DNA and the Krebs cycle, the pediatricians don’t know about these either. I worked a booth for Generation Rescue at the AAP Conference held a few years back in Washington, D.C. One doctor said “Autism, what is it, teach me a new trick” I told him the thimerosal damaged methylation! He turned green. Over two hundred doctors and most did not know what glutatione and metallothionein were. Sad because, glutathione protects diseases linked genes from turning on. Look at the children with diabetes, arthritis, thyroid disease.
    Recently in my state of Maryland, police dogs and armed guards frightened parents and children to comply with the vaccine agenda or be arrested! Out of three hundred parents, one hundred got the vaccine, seventy nine signed up for waivers, and the other had already had the vaccines. About six workers got parents to sign up for waivers. The work of a few helped that many children from getting mercury in the vaccines. The message is “Stop poisoning the Children” and parents groups are not going away. The AAP is not believable anymore, they have been brain washed by corrupt health officials and “Big Pharma”. Dismember yourself from the AAP and be a real doctor and stop commiting medical abuse of children.

  • 14 HCN // Feb 5, 2008 at 1:31 am

    Elaine, just answer this simple question:

    Which vaccine in the present pediatric schedule is more dangerous than the actual disease?

    You will need to provide actual verifiable references (only those are usually papers in journals with good reputations will be accepted… hint, those journals do NOT include ‘Medical Hypotheses’, which is a “pay to print” journal, not a peer reviewed journal).

  • 15 Prometheus // Feb 5, 2008 at 11:24 am

    Note to anyone thinking about getting their degree at the University of Google (or Yahoo State University):

    Read what Elaine Dow wrote above and compare it to what is contained in any graduate-level immunology text.

    ‘Nuff said.

    Prometheus

  • 16 Elaine Dow // Feb 5, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    Injecting chldren with the poison mercury does not prevent disease, it causes new ones. Just ask parents who kids have asthma, a life threatening condition, thousands die of it each year and mercury is a cause. Mercury in vaccines can cause vaccines to not work. Injecting children with mercury is stupid and parents need to weigh the risk of mercury poisoning against the diseases the vaccines are SUPPOSED to prevent. Before the MMR one in ten thousand developed encephalitis from the measles, I know I was one of them and I recovered. One in 150 have autism which IS inflammation of the brain. If the children could speak, would they rather have the flu for a week or autsim , seizures, cerebral palsey or asthma for life? Yes, children die from the flu, but children are dying from mercury poisoning,. It is just called SIDS, asthma, seizures, and I counted 57 died last year from autism, that just what was in the news. How many die and the paper says “ill health”. I am not anti-vaccine, but I am anti mercury containing vaccines. We use a safer vaccine protocal and yes, they may be a few vaccine injuries with it, but not the epedemic of vaccine injured children we have now. Vaccines with mercury are doing more harm than good. The pediatrician needs to protect the children and insure that recommendations are safe. The expression “the benefit outweighs the risk” tells us the medical profession knows they have damaged the children. We encourage that all parents find a responsible clinician who uses mercury free vaccines, if not stay away from those that think mercury in vaccines is necessary.

  • 17 Crabby // Feb 5, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    Wow, first the Geiers and now Elaine Dow!

    Makes me want to move…

  • 18 Elaine Dow // Feb 5, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    If you live in Maryland, move! Neal Halsey loves thimerosal. He testified at the Maryland Hearings in Annapolis 2004, not to take thimerosal out of vaccines. Maryland helped to develop the vaccine program through Johns Hopkins and have closes ties to vaccine makers and federal health officials. University of Maryland doctor James Campbell also loves thimerosal, sad because he has a vaccine damaged child and developes vaccines. He moved to Africa, and parents here worried that the damaged child was going to get more vaccines to go overseas. Thimerosal is 100 times more toxic than lead, would you spray lead into your eyes for your contact lens solutions or drop it into your ears for ear infections. Of course not. Why did they do this with mercury.Mercury causes hearing loss. Yes, Maryland plays a big part in the vaccine injured children saga. Johns Hopkins also started the autism rumor, they made the whole thing up his name was Leo Kanner, he was a freud and a baffoon. The new one is “global developement delay” and “not otherwise specified”. Parents are getting smart and the AAP took an oath to “first do no harm”. No thimerosal was not removed five years ago. That is a lie and Maryland has the damaged kids to prove it, thanks to people like Neal Halsey. AAP thinks he is a hero, parents think of him as the monster he is. You should have seen him at the Maryland hearing, he was a joke! Elaine

  • 19 _Arthur // Feb 5, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    Elaine, if thimerosal is so toxic, shouldn’t it be eliminated from vaccines ?
    And, when thimerosal is removed, the number of autism cases will dwindle to nothing, is that right ?

  • 20 Elaine Dow // Feb 5, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    Yes, the flu shot and DT shot given to pregnant mothers is the big problem right now. That is 50 mg. of mercury and the fetus is already damaged before birth. Mercury can cross over to the baby through the placenta and it can also be in breast milk. Some make-up also contain mercury. Nasal sprays, ear drops, and contact lens solutions also can contain thimerosal.Some people cannot clear mercury just as the Eskimo Indian cannot process out achohol. The thimerosal is also used in the beginning of the vaccine manufacturing and they say it is traces. There is no scientific measurement for a trace. It was used when the ear nose and throat doctors put tubes into the kids ears for drainage. Imagine putting a toxin into children ears. The deaf community is doing there own research. The pediatricians thought in the mid 1990’s that the thimerosal was leaching into the brain causing the brain injury. If the doctors would use single dose vaccines and not muti-dose this problem would go away. These vaccines cost about four more dollars a shot, so the medical community and health departments don’t buy them. Rho-gam immunogloblins contained high levels of thimerosal. They were given to pregnant women several times if the mother need them. These mothers have a high rate of mercury poisoned children. Elaine

  • 21 autblog // Feb 5, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    Elaine, you are making up your own facts.

  • 22 _Arthur // Feb 5, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    So, Elaine, you truly believe, the current crop of autistic children are due to flu shots given to pregnant mothers ?
    Can you provide any study showing that ?

    Would counter example, a mother with an autistic child, who _didn’t_ receive a flu shot during pregnancy, sway your conviction ?

  • 23 HCN // Feb 6, 2008 at 1:18 am

    Ah, dear Elaine… Before the MMR came along about one in 500 to 1000 who contracted measles actually died, also about 1 in 10000 who contracted mumps became deaf (though in the last outbreak of mumps in the American Midwest, four people became deaf out of less than 4000 cases of mumps).

    Also, you do realize that the MMR has never ever contained thimerosal? And that it was approved in the USA in 1971?

    Now answer my question with real references:

    Which vaccines in the present pediatric schedule are more dangerous than the actual diseases?

    Use real references, like the ones I did for the deaths from measles:
    www. ncbi.nlm.nih. gov /pubmed/15106092

    and how many people became deaf from mumps during the 2006 outbreak in the American Midwest:
    www. cdc. gov/ mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5520a4.htm

    (remove spaces to get links to work, this blog does not like links)

    I’d really like to see the “deaf community” research you have. Well, especially since that particular community has been shrinking. On the anecdotal side, the school my oldest son started in was where the district had its deaf-ed program. That program had about 80 deaf and hard of hearing kids in the early 1990s… a couple of years ago that program was moved to another school because it had shrunk down to less than ten kids. You might want to read the book “Train Go Sorry” about the changes in deaf-ed since deafness is not so prevalent. Apparently some of the major causes of deafness were mumps, measles, Hib, and other diseases like Scarlet Fever (a strep infection, now treated with antibiotics).

  • 24 HCN // Feb 6, 2008 at 1:20 am

    ooh, look I got linkies in!

    Let me try with the last one:
    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5520a4.htm

  • 25 HCN // Feb 6, 2008 at 1:29 am

    Okay, I’ve noticed that this blog software did not like the PubMed link. Anyway, it is:
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15106092

    I removed the first bit… Okay. Elaine, you have made some extraordinary claims, now please back them up with evidence.

  • 26 Elaine Dow // Feb 6, 2008 at 11:13 am

    If you are in the medical field go to PUBMED and access the reports on the toxicity of thimersoal. There is plenty. Measles did not kill one in five hundred that is a lie. I grew up with children who had measles, thousands of children – no deaths, two cases of encephalitis both recovered. Not is this country, maybe a third world country where hygiene and poor diet and care were factors. The vaccine compliance numbers are dropping, and the AAP has no one to blame but the lies. I have known over 400 deaf children in my life. Now they are just not just deaf, they have many other learning disabilites besides hearing loss. A severe deaf child is usually in a school for the deaf, not mainstreamed, the school boards cannot afford. I lived in a community that had seven deaf children in 1500 homes. The common factor, they all went to the same lousy group of pedicatricians and the same ears, nose of throat doctor. Read the AAP journal in the 1990’s on their contain over thimerosal used to disinfect the tubes inserted in the ears. They said it, I did not make it up. But, of course the injectable poison, was not a concern. What a bunch of liars.

  • 27 Lenora // Feb 6, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    Arthur, here’s your counter example-

    I have an autistic kid- born 2002- no thimerosal, no flu shots while pregnant.

  • 28 Elaine Dow // Feb 6, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    Thmerosal was not removed in 2002! California did not ban it until 2004 and tha law did not go into effect until the end of 2006 in Calif. The governor of Calif. also allowed it back in last year in the flu vacccine.Pedicatricians give out hundreds of vaccines each day in a large practice. Do you think they were going to get mercury free when they cost four more dollars a vaccine. They would not spend the extra money, the CDC assued them they were safe. Many doctors said that tried to order them, there were none available.Maybe you are young enough to have had vaccines and extra ones for college. You need a Urinary Porphyrin Profile, this will tell you heavy metal toxicity. All the kids with autism are poistive to mercury. Bolus doses were in vaccines, not traces. 25mg. per vaccine! The vets don’t use thimerosal although it is starting back up again with the cannine vacs. Horse Vets don’t use thimerosal in vaccines after it killed track horses in the1970’s. Since they had a monetary value labs were done and confirmed this. I would get this test for yourself. You have to be toxic or your husband. Is your husband work with toxic chemicals. Leo Kanner should have put together immediately the connection of his origainl patients to “Carasan”, the mercury based fungicide used on federal parks and grounds, his patients parents worked for the Forestry Dept. of worked with toxic chemicals or the child lived near where it was applied. This mercury based fungicide was used up until the 1960’s. There are others still being used. I hope your child recovers from mercury poisoning. I wish I could help you.I would get the vaccine record and we have a mercury calculator, tells how many mg. he got. Most of the 6 years old were exposed to 350 mg. of mercury in their vaccines. Three mg. is the first toxic level on a heavy metals urine test using challenge medicine.

  • 29 _Arthur // Feb 6, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    Thanks, Lenora, not that Elaine will believe in “anecdotal” evidence; she’ll believe only in what suits her beliefs.

    Oh, about Rhogam, pregnant mothers take those immunoglobulins injection to prevent serious complications, including loss/stillbirth of the foetus, because of blood type incompatibility.
    The baby as 1 chance in 200 to grow up ASD or autistic, same as any other.

    Elaine would tell those mothers not to take Rhogam, better a dead baby or one with erythroblastosis, rather than one with a microgram of ethyl mercury, who, according to Elain, may become autistic, IF HE/SHE HAS A GENETIC PREDISPOSITION TO MERCURY, still according to Elaine.

    That part I don’t understand, the pro-chelation gang readily invoke a genetic cause for autism due to “mercury”, but are dead set against the idea that autism might be genetic, no mercury involved.

    So far several genetic causes of autism have been found, including fragile X and more recently a defect on chromosome 16, but, no link with mercury.

    Sigh.

  • 30 Elaine Dow // Feb 6, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    There is a test for Fragile X, only one child of the hundreds of autistic children I know have it, sorry. When they do a UPP test they are mercury poisoned too, mercury or an infection will turn on disease linked genes. Like OCD, it can be caused by strep (PANDAS) or mercury, the character in the movie “As Good as it Gets” and the TV show Monk are markers for strep and a few mercury containing flu vaccines. Autoimmunity is also turned on by an infection or a heavy metal – find what is causing it and treat that problem. Arthritis can be turned on by strep and also heavy metal poisoning. But doctors just give them steriods, without looking for the cause. MTHFR gene has snips in autism, also in Juvellie diabetes and many other diseases. Also thimerosal is in skin bleach- might explain the Michael Jackson issues. It can also be in injectable arthritis drugs. Thimerosal was removed from RHO-gam is the past few years. It did not contain one micogram – it contained up to sixty mg. One half of the mothers I help received Rho-gam immunogloblins during pregancy with thimerosal. I believe only around 5%percent of women need them. Alot of them also had genetic retardation such as Fragile X and
    Retts, Petre Willie, Angelmann Syndrome. Yes, administering RHO-gam saved lives, but it may also have killed some of the fetuses because mercury poisoning can cause death. It was a substance that of not been in there. Thimerosal, trade name merthiolate, was banned in the 1970’s after a hospital in Canada used it on umbilical cords of newborns, causing 10 deaths and brain injury. It should have been banned for use in vaccines

  • 31 HCN // Feb 6, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    Ah, Elaine Dow… So many statements, and absolutely no evidence to back them up.

    Actually, the 1 in 500 death rate for measles is for the United States of America between 1987 and 1991. The death rate for measles in more undeveloped places like Africa is more like 1 in 10. About 200 children have died from measles recently in Nigeria, which is almost twice as many who died from measles in the USA between 1987 and 1991:
    http://allafrica.com/stories/200802041067.html (though I suspect you don’t care, because they aren’t pretty little American children)

    But why should I bother with the references for that for you. You would not care. I’ll just ask you about some famous people. Folks like you like famous people. You all gush over Jenny McCarthy and such… but what do you know about famous authors?

    Do you know who Roald Dahl is? Have you ever read his first autobiography? In it is a side note about one of the kids in his boarding school that contracted measles. What happened to that boy? Roald Dahl also had a little girl called “Olivia”, what happened to her?

    Have you ever heard of the book “Cheaper by the Dozen”. It is about the Gilbreth family and their 12 children. Except in the biography of the mother, Lillian Moller Gilbreth, the family photo only shows 11 children. Why is that?

    How many children did the creator of Frankenstein’s monster actually give birth to? How many lived passed their own father’s death?

    Did you know that the movie “Amadeus” had a very serious historical error? It shows the Mozarts with only one child, implying his wife only gave birth to one. What is the serious error?

    Did you know that William Shakespeare had a son? What happened to his boy?

    Do you really want us to go back to the good ol’ days?

    By the way, you have never answered my question on which vaccine in the present pediatric schedule is more dangerous than the actual disease. Do give it try, and try to include some references. You must get your delusions from somewhere.

  • 32 Elaine Dow // Feb 7, 2008 at 6:31 am

    The vaccine schedule with 30 vaccines before they are two is the problem. It is not safe. 120 children die of the flu. More than that die of vaccine injury each year. If you are not helping your patients with autism get help for heavy metal poisoning then find something else to do. They have liver damage. In a line from Jarassic Park “Your scienctist were so preoccupied that they could they didn’t stop and think if they should” The pediatrician isn’t practicing medicine, he is practice pharmacology.

  • 33 autblog // Feb 7, 2008 at 6:34 am

    Do you have a source for your claim that 120 children die from flu vaccines each year in the US?

  • 34 HCN // Feb 7, 2008 at 9:55 am

    No, autblog. We are to take her word as troof and dare not question it. It is argument by blatant assertion.

    She is a crank, it is probably best to ignore her. At least until she comes up with some verifiable evidence, which does not look like it will be anytime during this century.

  • 35 Linda Weinmaster // Feb 7, 2008 at 11:32 am

    Arthur,

    Have you read the MSDS for Thimerosal?

    University of Missouri is an important link to this issue. Also you might want to visit the “Combating Autism from Within” series again. One of the scientist, Frank Engley, was also the Assistant Dean of the School of Medicine as well as Chair of the Micro Biology Department. He was Drs. Michael Copperstock and Judith Miles professor at the School of Medicine. Dr. Engley also worked for the CDC, NIH and FDA and is the first individual to study Thimerosal on tissue cells in 1948. He found the thimeorsal was toxic to tissue cells at 5 nanograms. Check out the history.

    Elaine is correct about genetic susceptibilities that are ignored. Gentetic testing confirmed that both my husband and I have 2 MTHFR polymorphism so all of our children also have 2 MTHFR snips. If genetics caused autism we would all be on the spectrum. The genetics load the gun but the injected mercury pulled the trigger. No Mercury, No Autism.

    I have 3 boys, two born in the 80’s without RhoGAM during pregnancy and one born in 91 with a Thimerosal containing RhoGAM shot during my 28th week of pregnancy. All three of my sons have RH and ABO incompatibility with me. I received a RhoGAM shot after each pregnancy. My middle son had RH and hemolytic disease. My youngest son is diagnosed with Autism and has a combination of endocrine dysfunction, pituitary dysfunction, hyperlipidemia, hyperinsulinemia, hypothyroidism, low growth hormone, metabolism disorder, severe chronic constipation, high testosterone, and developmental delays due to adverse effect of thimerosal. His pediatrician wrote ”Heavy Metal Toxicity.” on his chart 2 years ago after reviewing his extensive lab work.

    When I heard about Dr. Miles doing a research study on RhoGAM and autism I called and asked to be a participant. She said she already had selected her participant. I explained that my children are perfect for the study. The one with autism had RhoGAM during pregnancy the others did not. I later found that Johnson and Johnson paid for the study, conflicts of interest since the manufacture RhoGAM.

    My older boys excel at everything they do, and attend college on combined academic and football scholarships.

    I prefer RH and hemolytic disease over autism.

    Linda Weinmaster

  • 36 _Arthur // Feb 7, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    “My youngest son is diagnosed with Autism and has a combination of endocrine dysfunction, pituitary dysfunction, hyperlipidemia, hyperinsulinemia, hypothyroidism, low growth hormone, metabolism disorder, severe chronic constipation, high testosterone, and developmental delays due to adverse effect of thimerosal. ”
    “His pediatrician wrote ”Heavy Metal Toxicity.” on his chart 2 years ago after reviewing his extensive lab work.”

    Right. What are your son’s lead, mercury and cadmium levels ?

  • 37 autblog // Feb 7, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    Linda, KOMU said that Adam has twice the amount of mercury in his system compared to “a typical person”. Is than an accurate quote from you?

  • 38 Linda Weinmaster // Feb 7, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    Since my sons methylation pathway was shut down by mercury he has levels as follows.

    Pre chelation highest mercury was 46 with a ref. range 0-15, 46 is more than twice, it is triple the highest safe level. At the time we were interviewed he had twice the level.
    ref. range Adam’s
    copper 3-35 1340

    cobalt 1.0-2.0 37

    lead 0-80 110

    Arsenic 0-50 330

    His heavy metal labs from December were all in ref. range except mercury 19 and copper 120

  • 39 autblog // Feb 7, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    Are these blood levels?

  • 40 _Arthur // Feb 7, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    Wow, that much arsenic in vaccines !

  • 41 Elaine Dow // Feb 7, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    My son using chelation theraphy and anti-virals excreted 85 Mg. of Mercury, 56 lead compliments of the toy industry, alluminum about 85mg. (also contained in vaccines), antimony – toxic levels From the flame retartdants on carpeting, baby clothes, etc., 2500 arsenic (compliments of the chicken industry using rosarsone), 650 mg. of tin (in Maryland PVC pipes are soddered with tin) tungsten – toxic levels. Doctors can not recognize that their patients are physicially sick. They are given financial insentives to drug children. I also wonder if my son’s doctor got a. a pen and pencil set, b. a coffee mug, c. a free golf game from “Big Pharma”. One last thing. The most rediculous expert Maryland brings to hearing on thimerosal is “Dr.” Roger Bernier. He is not even a medical doctor, he has a degree in philosophy. He is the chief science officer for the vaccine program, yet he is not a medical doctor. Some expert.

  • 42 Lucas McCarty // Feb 7, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    Thimerosal deadly to tissue cells at 5 nanograms?

    Sounds pretty worrying, but then I wonder what else would be deadly to cells in that quantity. I’m no toxicologist or chemist, but I can think of all kinds of stuff that would probably show similiar results. Suger and vineger, whilst making stuff tastier, dissolve the teeth. Oh of course you would have to go without brushing for a while, but we’re talking about what’s happening close up here. The chewing gum adverts say it’s mainly acids in them and the bacteria they feed. Bacteria would be a good one, that stuff is tiny. The ads say all this stuff attacks the teeth immediately and continues for up to 20 minutes after eating.

    Water. Bath water. I sit in there an hour and my skin becomes so easy to break, and not just the dead top layer. We lose lots of skin to H2O’s relentless assault on our bodies. I’m fairly sure that if you stuck some cells under a microscope with ordinary water, they’d have a hell of a time surviving just 5 nanowotsits of it too.

  • 43 autblog // Feb 7, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    85 mg of Hg? Where did all that Hg come from? Isn’t that equal to about 6,000 flu shots?

    How was your son tested? Blood levels? Who did the testing?

  • 44 _Arthur // Feb 7, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    “PVC pipes are soddered(sic) with tin” !!!
    PVC is plastic. It is not soldered.

    “Doctors can not recognize that their patients are physicially sick.”
    Giving a child chelation agents, Lupron and “antivirals” is very likely to make him sick, without helping his autism.

    Are you also giving him vitamins and supplements, by any chance ?

  • 45 HCN // Feb 7, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    Oh, my word, it is a crankfest! And not a verifiable bit of evidence anywhere to be seen.

  • 46 Elaine Dow // Feb 8, 2008 at 6:44 am

    His vaccines totaling over two hundred mg. of mercury. So I got out almost half of the mercury that was injected into him by the pediatricians office. Injecting children with mercury is medical abuse. Trace amounts are not acceptable. If the clinician doesn’t shake the vial up and it sat and warmed up, one child can get more of the “sludge”. It is like a child molestor says that he only abuses child a little bit, not as much as he did before!

  • 47 autblog // Feb 8, 2008 at 9:00 am

    Thimerosal doesn’t sink to the bottom of the vial. Another urban myth you’re trying to pass off as truth.

  • 48 Lucas McCarty // Feb 8, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    Doesn’t trace amounts of mercury occur naturally in the food we eat and in our bodies?

    What are we to do…

  • 49 _Arthur // Feb 8, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    Apparently, custard in Maryland must be rich in tungsten, too.

  • 50 autblog // Feb 9, 2008 at 7:38 am

    Some comments defy parody. How would I know if Elaine Dow was only having a bit of fun, and didn’t really believe what she’s saying?

  • 51 seashell // Jun 11, 2008 at 5:39 am

    The vaccines are not extensively safety tested as isles argues. In every safety trial done on a vaccine containing mercury or thimerosol, these neurotoxins are added to the placebo. In flu shots where both single (mercury free) and multidose vials (preserved) are tested together, the thimerosol is added also to the placebo. In Prevnar vaccine which contains aluminum hydroxide (associated with more reactions than vaccines containing other aluminum salts) the placebo is Engerix HepB vaccine which contains double the aluminum hydroxide that Prevnar does. Guess what…the placebo was more dangerous than the vaccine being tested, causing twice the number of SIDS cases as well. Unethical and very poor science. Mercury is a preservative but aluminum is an active ingredient. Both are regulated by EPA and OSHA but not FDA. Unethical to intentionally inject people with neurotoxins for the purpose of scientific study. Also the amount of aluminum or mercury is food which has toxic effects is very different than amount injected which can be harmful. In studies of infants fed IV solutions contaminated with aluminum, there was a decrease in cognitive function for each day the child was exposed to higher levels of aluminum in IV. The amount in the IV was similar to levels of aluminum in our drinking water which do not normally cause harm. Our intestines prevent 99.9% of aluminum from getting into our bloodstream; bypassing this protection and injecting heavy or toxic metals can cause great harm. Toxic doses of hazardous substances and even medication doses are very different for injected, ingested, inhaled, and absorbed through the skin…this is well known but thimerosol and aluminum adjuvant supporters continue to ignore well established toxicological facts. The CDC on their website compare safety of aluminum and thimerosol in vaccines to the amount in foods, showing like the safety trials with active placebo that they are not worthy of the trust placed in them…because either they do it to cover up facts (unethical) or because they are unfamiliar with basic principles of toxicology and medicine (stupid).

  • 52 ANB // Jun 11, 2008 at 9:23 am

    In every safety trial done on a vaccine containing mercury or thimerosol (sic), these neurotoxins are added to the placebo.

    Do you have a source for this?

    In studies of infants fed IV solutions contaminated with aluminum, there was a decrease in cognitive function for each day the child was exposed to higher levels of aluminum in IV.

    Or this?

    Vaccines are not injected IV. They are injected into the muscle, so they are slowly released and have a better chance to work. Aluminum lodges in the muscle tissue and stays put. There is no credible evidence that vaccines cause autism.

    Seashell, are you aware that dose makes the poison? Oxygen is toxic at high concentrations. So is fluorine, which you probably brushed your teeth with this morning.

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