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February 18th, 2008 · 41 Comments · AAP

Anti-vaccine activists believe that the vaccine-autism canard is a majority view among affected parents. “If I wanted to find parents who had autistic children and who believed their child’s autism was impacted by vaccines,” notes one such activist, “I could just open my window and yell, because these parents are everywhere in my neighborhood and town! Worse, our numbers continue to grow.” It’s a touching anecdote, but as is the case with most anti-vaccine claims, is unsupported by data.

None-the-less, the American Academy of Pediatrics is concerned by such destructive rants because, as Mark Twain once quipped, “A lie can travel half way around the world before the truth can get its boots on.” The nation’s media have been particularly slow getting its boots on, as witnessed by the one-sided odes to autism quackery and pseudoscience that pass for science writing.

So it’s important to recognize the AAP’s appeal to rational parents to actively promote vaccines, while debunking the stubborn urban legend that vaccines cause autism. Here’s an email from Susan Martin, AAP director of media relations:

Hello,
As part of our ongoing response to media stories regarding autism and vaccines, the AAP communications department is compiling a list of parents who support the AAP and are available for interviews. We are looking for two types of parents who could serve as spokespersons:

Parents of children with autism spectrum disorders who support immunization and who do not believe there is any link between their child’s vaccines and his or her autism.

Parents of children who suffered a vaccine-preventable illness. This could be a parent who declined immunization, whose child became ill before a vaccine was available, or whose child was ineligible for immunization.

We are asking for your help identifying parents who would be good spokespersons. They do not need to be expert public speakers. They just need to be open with their story and interested in speaking out on the issue. We will contact candidates in advance to conduct pre-interviews, to offer guidance on talking to reporters and to obtain a signed waiver giving us permission to release their name.

If a parent were placed on our list, we would offer their name and contact information to select media. We hope to build a list of parents from a wide range of geographical areas.

As the Jenny McCarthy and “Eli Stone” stories illustrate, this issue is likely to recur in the national and local media. The AAP is committed to doing all we can to counter such erroneous reports with factual information supported by scientific evidence and AAP recommendations.

The anti-vaccine groups often have emotional family stories on their side. The ability to offer a reporter an interview with a similarly compelling parent who is sympathetic to the AAP’s goals is a powerful tool for our media relations program.

Please contact me if you have any questions or to suggest a parent to interview.

Thank you,

Susan Stevens Martin
Director, Division of Media Relations
American Academy of Pediatrics
847.434.7131

The AAP’s call has set off much much hand wringing and spittle spraying, and even a dead-baby joke by one anti-vaccine type, which Orac covers here.

It must be discouraging to pediatricians when popular media give equal time to a destructive myth that was debunked years ago. “Science has shown– repeatedly–that there is no support for this theory,” Sullivan correctly notes at GMWM. “Why then should any media outlet need to give the vaccine/autism crowd equal time?”

Indeed, Clark Hoyt, the New York Times reader representative, covers this topic today. He looks at three science stories covered recently by the Times and asks “When does fairness demand that a newspaper walk down the middle in a scientific dispute, and when does responsibility demand that it take sides?”

Regarding autism, Hoyt concludes the media’s door seems to be closing on the autism-vaccine debate. The tipping point came last month when ABC aired Eli Stone, a dramedy about a lawyer who successfully sues a vaccine maker for causing a boy’s autism. Edward Wyatt, a Times culture reporter, skewed evidence-based in his review, and Hoyt offers this insight:

Wyatt’s article made clear that there is a debate but did not give equal weight to the two sides. The Times has not since 2005, when two reporters investigated every scientific study and thousands of documents from parents convinced of a link between autism and vaccines, and came down pretty clearly on the side of the scientists.Wyatt said he relied on that report and read extensively about autism when he got the first hint of what the “Eli Stone” episode would say. “The show seems to portray it as, ‘No one knows,’ ” he said. “My conclusion was that that is not the case.”

Indeed, the door on this controversy seems to be closing, but the Centers for Disease Control is conducting one more study, expected to be published next year.

As I’ve written before, the controversy only exists in the fevered imaginations of a minority of grieving parents, and in the nation’s media. At some point, an idea becomes so discredited that it is no longer deserves equal time. Holocaust denial, 911 Truth, racial supremacy, and creation science have all been shown the door by the majority of popular media. It’s time for the vaccine-autism urban myth to join them.

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  • 1 Casdok // Feb 18, 2008 at 10:50 am

    Very well said.

  • 2 Tanner's Dad // Feb 18, 2008 at 11:20 am

    All the hysterical parents are saying is Green our vaccines. Look at the facts:
    1983: Autism rate 1 in 10,000
    Vaccine schedule 10 shots
    2008: Autism rate in boys 1 in 70
    Vaccine schedule 36
    My sons last words:
    “My name is Tanner. My name is Tanner.”
    The week of his shots for school…
    Show me any other campaign for disinformation as wound up as this one by the medical(vaccine maker) community. Remove the Mecury, Aluminum, formaldehyde, ether, antifreeze. Reevaluate the schedule. What was the death rate from these deadly diseases in 1983 that we had to add 26shots? If there are side effects to the vaccinations all we asking for is support for therapy, respite, and recovery.

    Is a 40% effectiveness rate for flu shots really worth the side effects? Has anyone even studied this… You will soon learn a new term… You heard it here first… “Flu shot Babies”

  • 3 Club 166 // Feb 18, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Autism was first described in the late 1930’s.

    Do you know what else came out then?

    Baby food.

    It’s baby food, I tell you. And the big jump in the 1980’s?

    Personal computers, followed by cell phones in the 90’s.

    There’s the real culprits.

    /sarcasm

    Joe

  • 4 Matt // Feb 18, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    Thank you very much for posting this.

    I read about this first on the GR website the day it came out. I immediately called the AAP to thank them for doing this. It is time for the AAP to do this.

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  • 6 Maddy // Feb 18, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    There is a new comment on my blog which simply demonstrates that the ‘person’ in the street hears the message loud and clear, it’s just the wrong message.
    BEst wishes

  • 7 autblog // Feb 18, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    You know what else happened in the 90s? Boy bands. I blame BoyzIIMen, New Kids on the Block, and the Backstreet Boys. It was OK when all we had were The Monkees, but the proliferation of syrupy ballads and cornball harmonies overwhelmed our children’s immune systems. Justin Timberlake – j’accuse!

  • 8 Ms. Clark // Feb 18, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Oh, no. It’s not Backstreet Boys… it’s not BoyzIIMen…. the real, scary, scary culprit….

    MENUDO!!!!! Think about it. :-0

    I also would like to accuse the NYT of dropping the ball quite extremely by accepting GR’s full page ad with the “autism is mercury poisoning message.” They should have some kind of responsibility not to take money for some kinds of ads. But before they printed that ad, I did really appreciate what reporters O’Connor and Harris did with their lengthy article on the mercury malicia.

  • 9 Tanner's Dad // Feb 25, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    After years of insisting there is no evidence to link vaccines with the onset of autism spectrum disorder (ASD), the US government has quietly conceded a vaccine-autism case in the Court of Federal Claims.

    The unprecedented concession was filed on November 9, and sealed to protect the plaintiff’s identify. It was obtained through individuals unrelated to the case.

    Explain This…

  • 10 autblog // Feb 25, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    There’s nothing to explain. You need to stop believing everything David Kirby says. His claim is based on a document that may or may not exist. So far, he’s the only one who has supposedly seen it. Meanwhile, there continues to be no scientific support for the vaccine-autism hypothesis.

    Why would the petitioners agree to withdraw a test case that proves the vaccine-autism link? Isn’t the whole point of the Omnibus hearings to present a case that links vaccines and autism? And when the petitioners finally find such a case, after six months of striking out, they withdraw the case because – it proves their case?

  • 11 Tanner's Dad // Feb 29, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    My son’s last words… “My name is Tanner My name is Tanner.” the week he got his shots…

    John McCain Enters the Autism Wars
    February 29, 2008 7:11 PM

    At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., declared that “there’s strong evidence” that thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines, is responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. — a position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment.

    You will here more…

  • 12 autblog // Mar 1, 2008 at 8:24 am

    McCain pointing to “strong evidence”. Now where have I heard that one before?

  • 13 Tanner's Dad // Mar 5, 2008 at 7:09 pm

    PRESS CONFERENCE: VACCINE AUTISM LEGAL CONCESSION ON MARCH 6
    Landmark Federal Court concession that local child from Atlanta developed autism from vaccines. Child joins parents in press conference about this historic result at Atlanta Federal Court House tomorrow.

    The press conference will be held Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 11:30am on the steps of the US Federal Courthouse at 75 Spring Street, in Atlanta, GA.

  • 14 Prometheus // Mar 6, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Scientific data does not come from polls, popular votes, full-page ads or campaign promises. It really doesn’t matter how many people say “vaccines cause autism” or how loud they say it. Court cases, lawsuits and bad legislation won’t make it true.

    Until they provide the data – and they’ll have to provide a mountain of data to counter the mountain of data that shows no connection between vaccines and autism – it’s all just noise.

    Prometheus

  • 15 Tanner's Dad // Mar 7, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    Prometheus,

    Plug your ears because you are about to hear a lot of noise.

    Those that lie… Will be painted in the corner. Watch the Gov. squirm. Lies lies Lies

    They mandated vaccines… They should have to pay for the care of the injured!

  • 16 Prometheus // Mar 19, 2008 at 9:59 am

    Tanner’s Dad,

    No matter how often you repeat your claims, they’re just noise unless you have some data – some evidence – to back them up.

    I suspect that if you had any evidence of “lies” from “the government”, you would have already shown it.

    As for paying for the care of those injured by vaccines, that’s what the VICP is for. All you have to do is convince the Court that the injury was caused by vaccines.

    The VICP is much more liberal in awarding compensation than the usual civil court, erring on the side of paying when there is equivocal evidence.

    A perfect example is the recent Hannah Poling case, which was awarded compensation even though it is likely that any infection (including vaccine-preventable diseases) would have caused the same outcome.

    However, “the government” agreed that it was at least possible that the vaccines she received were the triggering factor, as so paid the claim.

    On the other hand, the VICP doesn’t simply hand out checks to anyone who claims that they – or their child – was injured by a vaccine. They have to exercise due diligence, after all.

    Prometheus

  • 17 Tanners Dad // Mar 22, 2008 at 6:07 am

    Prometheus,
    You have changed my mind…Let’s go the other way and say to everyone that Mercury and the preservatives actually help the little babies…

  • 18 Prometheus // Mar 24, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    Tanner’s Dad has – not surprisingly – resorted to the tried-and-true high school debating team gambit of the “straw man”.

    Rather than arguing with anything I said, he chose to argue – in a transparently sarcastic fashion – against a position I didn’t take: “that Mercury [sic] and the preservatives [sic] actually help the little babies…”

    I have to say that I’ve seen this particular “straw man” used so many times that I’ve come to expect it. Having been shown that there is no data supporting the assertion that mercury (or vaccines) cause autism, the common retort is:

    “So do you think that mercury is GOOD for you?!?!”

    Most people – if they are in the reasoning part of the mind – realize that there is a large difference between saying that mercury – in the amount (previously) contained in childhood vaccines – has not been shown to cause autism and the “straw man” of “mercury is not harmful in any amount”.

    So, when this particular “straw man” comes out, I realize that the discussion is over – that I’m up against yet another closed mind.

    Prometheus

  • 19 Tanners Dad // Mar 24, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    I just thought that was an interesting news story showing how far the main stream medical would take it. I would have been disappointed if you had taken that one.

    I am still confused as to why this topic is worth defending so vehmently…

    I am fighting for respite, therapy, and remediation.

    What are you fighting for?

  • 20 autblog // Mar 24, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    Public health. There is no credible evidence that vaccines cause autism. But the evidence that an under-vaccinated population is at risk for deadly diseases is overwhelming.

  • 21 HCN // Mar 24, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    Also for kids who are health impaired and have had bad outcomes with an actual disease (oh, like my kid!)… You can read about some of others at http://www.pkids.org.

    And to switch the focus back to what really helps kids like yours and mine, access to decent educational services that show far greater promise than the quack cure of the year. Also for continued services at places like the Dept. of Vocational Rehabilitation and Developmental Disabilities (where we have an appointment tomorrow).

  • 22 Tanners Dad // Mar 25, 2008 at 7:09 am

    So we are all fighting for the same things.
    Safety of our children,The public well being, and help for those who have been injured.

    Wouldn’t it be great if everyone was on the same page.

  • 23 HCN // Mar 25, 2008 at 9:20 am

    Except, folks like you want to bring back the diseases that used to commonly kill children. It is because of of folks like you that measles has returned to Japan, UK and Switzerland (the latter being the source of a recent outbreak of measles in San Diego).

    What you need to do is to tell us exactly which vaccine in the present pediatric schedule is more dangerous than the actual disease. Then you might get us on the same page.

  • 24 autblog // Mar 25, 2008 at 9:24 am

    Being on the same page only works if we are speaking the same language. Here that means understanding the scientific method, and sticking to the rules. Rule number one: present real evidence. That doesn’t include what Jenny told Oprah, or what David Kirby wrote over at HuffPo.

  • 25 Tanners Dad // Mar 29, 2008 at 9:27 am

    MITOCHONDRIAL DYSFUNCTION, VACCINES AND AUTISM: 1 in 50 Children Could Be at Risk
    03.28.08, 12:41 PM ET

    — Up to 1 in 50 children (2%) may be at risk for mitochondrial dysfunction.

    — Thimerosal, mercury, aluminum, pollution, pesticides, medicines and prenatal alcohol exposure have all been shown to damage mitochondria.

    — Up to 20% of all children with autism may have underlying mitochondrial dysfunction.

    — The CDC is aware of this situation and is immediately taking measures to address the current national vaccine schedule.

    — The genetic susceptibility for mitochondrial dysfunction is not rare.

    — This DNA mutation alone may not be enough to confer cellular dysfunction; doctors believe there is an environmental trigger as well.

    — Children with mitochondrial dysfunction are more likely to regress into autism following a fever and illness from viral infections or a vaccine reaction.

    — Some changes in the vaccine schedule will almost surely be made. The most difficult decision is how and when to vaccinate children with proven mitochondrial dysfunction.

    The tide is turning…. I do not really care what page you are on or what language you think you are speaking. In the end history will show that we caused this epidemic.

    Real evidence… Children can speak one day and shortly after shots they can not…

    It is the researchers job to figure out why and help that subgroup of the population get safer vaccines.

  • 26 autblog // Mar 29, 2008 at 9:40 am

    So in review, you think it would be great if we were all on the same page, but you don’t care if we are. In addition, you don’t care if the discussion if evidence-based, because correlation and unfounded speculation are good enough. Have I missed anything?

  • 27 Tanners Dad // Mar 29, 2008 at 11:02 am

    And look, maybe it’s not the vaccines or the thimerosal that made the rate of autism go from one kid in 15,000 to one kid in 116. It could be some new additive in peanut butter, or exposure to wheat bran and Sea Monkeys. I mean, until the mid-Seventies the “experts” claimed it was caused by overly intellectual, emotionally distant “refrigerator mothers.” We know, at least, that that last hypothesis is a load of crap. But we don’t know anything else. Isn’t it time we expended a little more effort trying to really figure this thing out, and a little less of same calling the parents who are doing their best to make sense of and cope with the horrors of this disorder idiots? I can’t speak for anyone else, but I’m pretty sick of being told how stupid I am. I won’t hold my breath waiting for that to change any time soon. Meanwhile: smoke ‘em if you got ‘em.

  • 28 Tanners Dad // Mar 29, 2008 at 11:07 am

    What have you missed… The writing on the wall.
    All this week you will here the walls come tumbling down. Autism will be the topic all week. Julie Gerberding even had to soften her stance on CNN this morning.

    The truce is admit the damage. Provide help for the injured children. My child. Then we will only focus on the things we are doing to poison the environment.

  • 29 autblog // Mar 29, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    You’re still cherry picking evidence, and relying on urban myth. That’s not the best way to help children. If some parents come off sounding like “idiots” as you say they do, it’s probably because of the things they say. All I’m hearing from you is innuendo, and cryptic references, i.e. writing on the wall, smoke ‘em if you got ‘em. That’s not how groups come to consensus. I don’t think you’re stupid, I just think you’re in way over your head. You don’t seem to understand how science works, and you keep getting your facts wrong.

  • 30 Tanners Dad // Mar 29, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em… Reference the fight to get the smokers out of our lives. Their lobby is nothing compared to big Pharma.
    One part of true science that you miss is science is supposed to be neutral. Until big Pharma money is out of the equation that will never happen. Anyone can say through any study that Autism is caused by TV watching, Old dads, too many drinks, refrigerator Moms, Bad genes, or even a bad vaccine schedule.

    I suppose again going with cold moms must be the most logical scientific way to go because that has been the scientific Medical theory that has permeated our culture for the longest time.

    Yes I agree with you I am in over my head but I am not out of my league… Until there is not another case of autism on earth we are all in this boat going down together… My child is the first bird to die in the cave… Your children and grand children are next.

  • 31 autblog // Mar 29, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    There was nothing scientific about the refrigerator mother hypothesis. There is also nothing scientific about the vaccines cause autism hypothesis. That idea has been debunked repeatedly. It’s far from certain that there is an autism epidemic.

  • 32 Tanners Dad // Mar 29, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    What time will you be going to sleep tonight?
    There may not be a epidemic but many parents will be up all night with their autistic children bouncing off the walls ( literally) as I will be. Talk about someone in denial.

  • 33 autblog // Mar 30, 2008 at 6:48 am

    TD, that makes no sense. We really are speaking different languages here. The reason you’re staying up all night is because you chose to keep your children. In the “good old days”, before Eli Lily invented autism, lots of families gave up their autistic children. The kids lived short, miserable lives in asylums, where many were brutalized and died of preventable infectious diseases.

    Here’s a little test to get back on the same page. If you agree with the following four points, they you and I have no major disagreements:

    1. Correlation is not the same as causation
    2. Anecdotal evidence is unreliable
    3. The scientific method is the best way we have to separating truth from nonsense
    4. Health care fraud is a problem, and people who don’t understand the first three points are easy marks.

    And who’s talking about someone being in denial? For that matter, who called you an idiot? Project all you want, but not here, please.

  • 34 Tanners Dad // Mar 30, 2008 at 11:39 am

    1. Agreement-Correlation is not the same as causation… Correlation though is a red flag to do some unbiased scientific research (Yes I know that unbiased and scientific is redundant)

    2. Agreement-Anecdotal evidence is unreliable.
    Question… at what point does Anecdotal become a query point… 100 parents, 500 parents, 1000 parents, 5000 now going to court? the 50,000 + that were denied due process from the statute of limitations?

    3. Agreement and no discussion- The scientific method is the best way we have of separating truth from nonsense… DO THE REQUESTED STUDY…. Vaccinated vs. Non-vacinated.

    4. Agreement but not on topic. Other than there are a lot of quacks making a lot of money of poor parents looking for answers…Health care fraud and bias is a problem…. People who don’t understand how big Pharma is poisoning us are easy marks.

    5. Now we agree… How do we help my son and the millions like him… The old group homes where they were sent to die do not exist anymore… and for some reason I thought we were a little more civilized than just throw them out into the street to die. Especially when new evidence show autistics can communicate… We just do not speak their language.

  • 35 autblog // Mar 30, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    Number four is very much on topic. If people who don’t understand the first three points are easy marks for snake oil salesmen, they are also also easily persuaded by junk science and wild conspiracy theories.

    At what point does anecdotal evidence become a query point? I don’t think you can put a number on it. But I also don’t think that the more people believe something to be true, the more likely it is to be true. You don’t have to search history very long to find examples of large swaths of a population believing the same thing that later turned out not to be true.

    How to help kids like your son and mine? I can’t speak for you, but I find that sticking to evidence helps. I also know these kids need accommodation and acceptance, and parents who don’t spend time and resources chasing down quack treatments. What kind of message does it send to a kid that he is poisoned when he isn’t? My son is already learning disabled – why should I add shame and hopelessness to his burden?

  • 36 Prometheus // Mar 30, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    Autblog,

    I’d have to say that “Tanners [sic] Dad” – despite his attempts to twist your points into his points – doesn’t agree with any of them.

    [1] Correlation is a good indication for “further research”, but when that “further research” fails to pan out, it’s time to drop it.

    [2] The reason that parents’ “stories” or “narratives” aren’t data points is that the parents are not objective observers – they have a very strong desire to see improvement with treatment or to assign blame where there is deterioration.

    In addition, autistic children improve, develop and progress with no treatment at all. As a result, we need to compare the “treatment” with “placebo” and we need to compare the reported “causes” of autism with objective records of what actually happened when.

    Sad to say, even a thousand “narratives” do not equal a single data point. “Eye witness” testimony is just too unreliable. Ask any criminal lawyer how many times solid forensic evidence (and even video recordings) have shown “eye witness” accounts to be in error.

    [3] If the “vaccinated vs unvaccinated” study were done and – as is most likely – failed to show a connection, would “Tanners [sic] Dad” move on? Maybe – maybe not.

    Nobody in the scientific community is too excited about doing such a study because the existing data (it has been done, on smaller scales) suggests that it will show that vaccines don’t cause autism. As a result, it would be a tremendous waste of time and money and wouldn’t be believed by people who have already made up their minds. We already have seen that in Sallie Bernard’s “minority opinion” on the recent thimerosal study.

    [4] “Big Pharma”, the “supplement industry” and the “alternative practitioners” all have one thing in common: they’re in it for the money.

    What they don’t have in common is oversight. Even if you scorn the FDA’s abilitiy to oversee “Big Pharma”, the “supplement industry” is essentially unregulated and “alternative practitioners” are only brought to task after they have killed someone – often more than one “someone”.

    If “Big Pharma” is “poisoning us”, then the “supplement industry” and the “alternative practitioners” could be committing wholesale slaughter before it were detected.

    [5] I think that “Tanners [sic] Dad” has shown clearly enough that he has closed his mind to any new information on this topic. Why bother?

    Prometheus

  • 37 Tanners Dad // Apr 16, 2008 at 11:16 am

    Your scientists at work… Who should we trust???

    There it is, right next to the photo of the pope and the president, the lead story in USA Today: “Reports: Data on Vioxx misused.” Subhed: “Documents suggest risk was downplayed.”

    In brief – USA Today’s specialty – it turns out that Merck “apparently downplayed evidence showing the painkiller tripled the risk of death in Alzheimer’s-prone patients, researchers report today. A separate analysis of court documents revealed that many Vioxx studies were prepared or written by Merck employees or paid consultants, not the doctors named as the studies’ lead authors, researchers say.”

  • 38 Tanners Dad // Jul 5, 2008 at 4:38 am

    They get it in Danville IL…

    http://www.commercial-news.com/local/local_story_186003307.html

  • 39 HCN // Jul 6, 2008 at 1:11 am

    ooooh… it is a newspaper interview with one doctor. Yet, they failed to show what level of the spectrum they were talking to, nor to any actual science.

    Uh, yeah… “they” is one person with an agenda who just happens to have a “belief”.

    Big freaking whoop.

  • 40 Tanners Dad // Oct 19, 2008 at 6:34 am

    Harm that is caused by vaccines is a foreseeable harm! Parents have paid just about $2 Billion for vaccine injury compensation in the last 20 years.

    “It is so important to remember that this harm that is caused by vaccines is a foreseeable harm. The insurance industry foresees the harm, and will not insure the pharmaceutical industry against this harm. Yet we as parents as being forced to give these dangerous substances to children in exchange for alleged free public education. This is simply wrong.” Fucetola said.

    Ralph Fucetola JD, trustee of the Natural Solutions Foundation, a non governmental educational body, insisted that there is a universal right to vaccine exemptions.

    The government can not mandate vaccines in this country until they own up to the fact that vaccines have side effects, cause injury, and admit they are protecting the pharmaceutical industry. Because vaccines are a Foreseeable harm insurance companies will not protect the pharmaceutical companies. So the governement and the big pharmaceutical lobby put in place the vaccine injury compensation fund. Which is funded by a tax on parents. This fund has paid our close to $2 billion dollars to people that were maimed, injured, murdered, and ended up with autism. Parents are limited to a 3 years to figure out what went wrong with their child. In a culture of lies and denials that protects the medical establishment.

    So again let me bottom line this for you. You have to pay a tax to protect the people that are forcing you to put something into your child’s body that could maim, kill, or steal their ability to communicate. Isn’t it about time parents got a little angry. We have been told lies for too many years.

    Now we are getting blasted by all sides. Recently almost $22 million was given to a researcher Dr. Nancy Minshew that refuses to look at the vaccine link to autism. She is treated to a Pop Star/ Rock Star life while parents in the trenches fight to stay out of bankruptcy. How can we give another $22 million to somebody who has produced nothing for parents in researching this for the last 20 years.
    http://www.popcitymedia.com/features/minshew0712.aspx
    http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/10/how-fitting-tha.html

    Wake up parents our only hope is to unite as one…And see if we can get this old democratic engine to represent the people….

    Ok Katie… now we have gone to far. I said yesterday that the AOA article on Every Child by Two gave me enough ammunition to fight and forget my coffee. Now you have me fired up…
    I can just imagine 5 to 10 years from now, when the facilities are over run, parents are committing suicide, parents are killing their children, children are abandoned (do A search for the new Nebraska law), and Congress gets their act together to realize that they need to bail out parents and the system to help these now grown poisoned kids…

    Oh wait…All that has happened except for the part where Congress wakes up to the tune of about a trillion dollars…

    Anyway, Just imagine when they put Miss Nancy on the stand to see what she has done with the approx. 30 Million she has wasted in the last 25 – 30 years. This genetic and symptom research is going nowwhere. I do not need a multi million dollar study to tell me that my son does not yawn when I do. Just ask any parent… We will tell you. They stare at our mouths and not into our eyes.

    I think the public outrage is going to a lot louder than hunting trips, sales reward banquets, and spa treatments were for AIG. At least in AIG’s case they are a corporation which at its non-existent heart is supposed to be a money sucking pig. What is Nancy’s defence going to be…. I hope and pray that our recovered children are the ones asking the questions in the senate, congress, and as lawyers getting the true amount owed to our kids by the pharmaceutical industry. Thank God there is no statute of limitations in Hell…

    Oh I almost forgot..Thanks again Katie!
    http://www.causecast.org/member/tanners-dad

  • 41 Save Tanner! // Jul 16, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    Wow. Just ran across this post from a guy who seems to be working himself up to kill his son. A word of advice – all the best murder/suicides start with the suicide.

    P.S. I’ve never liked the children-haters who refer to autistic children as a tsunami, but I’m increasingly fond of the phrase “a sewage tank of antivaxxers”.

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