Your list of papers included lots of stuff on METHYLmercury, so you obviously think that is a vaccine component. Back it up.

Yes, we may agree to disagree… You are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.

So far you have not presented anything that shows vaccines cause anything more than a sore arm, and some very rare adverse events (no, vaccines do not cause autism).

Actually, vaccines have helped reduce the incidence of mental retardation:
http://archpedi.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/160/3/302

You end with ” I hope your children live long and happy lives”…

How about you help us with that? I’ve seen my child as a sweet baby boy on a respirator. Even as a young adult his heart condition makes him more vulnerable to vaccine preventable diseases.

Make sure that the next time it is time to update your tetanus vaccine that you get the Tdap. Plus make sure that measles, mumps and rubella do not return by ignoring the GenerationRescue “delayed vaccine” schedule that does not include vaccination for those diseases at all.

It is all in your court. Please make sure no more babies die from pertussis and Hib. Please make sure that kids don’t suffer the severe neurological deficits, including deafness and blindness, from measles, mumps and Hib.

Is there anything else you would like to know about me? Mom’s favorite color? I can’t tell you how impressed I am at your ability to google my name especially since the things we have been doing in Oklahoma have gone out on the AP wire. You will find numerous stories about my family and my precious son, Nicholas ….You see, my husband and I are known throughout Oklahoma and somewhat in the mainstream autism community throughout the US….because of the initiatives we, together with Oklahoma’s parent community and our legislature are doing to better the lives of these children and their families.

Take care, I wish you only the best and hope you find peace in your world and I hope your children live long and happy lives. And we can leave on a upbeat note. We can agree to disagree.

Robyne Rohde, Mommy to Nicholas, Nick’s Law-Oklahoma

and then after I said this:

2) You actually work for a hospital or company that makes money supplying hospitals with supplies, and it works to your advantage to have more kids put into the hospital rather than prevent diseases.

With a little Googling of her uncommon last name, and unusual spelling of her first name, it turns out she DOES work for a hospital. She is the “Business Continuity Planner” for a hospital. Draw you own conclusions.

You had lots of papers that were on METHYLmercury, obviously you must know now that they have absolutely nothing to do with thimerosal (which is no longer in pediatric vaccines, even the influenza vaccine is available without thimerosal).

You did say: “Again, I really don’t care if you do or do not believe Thimerosal which is 49.9% ethyl-mercury is safe. ”

I think you need to take a chemistry course. There is only one mercury atom in the molecule. Because it is so heavy, it counts for almost half the molecular weight of the molecule. It is NOT almost half mercury. This claim is close to saying that table salt is dangerous because over half is a dangerous gas (the chlorine atom is heavier than the sodium atom).

Here is an explanation on the molecule:
http://autismdiva.blogspot.com/2005/11/you-wanna-go-where.html

Here is a case report of someone attempting to commit suicide by overdosing on thimerosal:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8699562? … he recovered completely.

Alex Jones “Infowars” and JB Handley’s “Putchildrenfirst” website.

Great, a conspiracy theorist and a businessman, both who have absolutely no medical training nor a clear grasp of reality.

What next? Are you going to spam stuff from David Icke about the vaccines being designed by lizard people?

The answer to getting called on having spewed a bunch of nonsense ISN’T to spew some more. If you aren’t able to back up your arguments, you should rethink them.

You have yet to tell me you know the difference between METHYLmercury and ethylmercury. Why should we believe anything you post?

Though one advantage to you spamming with the AoA posting, is that I can respond without my comment being deleted.

For instance, why should we commend Dan Olmsted? He wrote about the Amish, yet failed to go to the Clinic of Special Children. He has absolutely no clue on how to do journalistic research. Which is more than likely why he no longer works for UPI, and is now flogging at AoA. See the January 30th, 2008 posting of this blog about that.

Now about David Kirby… He went from “Out” magazine which had the purpose of outing gay people who chose to remain in the closet, to being hired to write “Evidence of Harm”. He claimed that the level of autism would go down after thimerosal was removed. Well, thimerosal was removed almost 8 years ago, and yet autism diagnoses keep going up (while mental retardation goes down), and he just moves the goal posts (or blames fires in China):
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/03/vaccines_and_autism_the_incredible_shrin.php

Now about Barbara Loe Fisher; I personally blame her for the panic on the DPT vaccine (if you look above, I posted a paper that showed there was no increased levels of encephalopathy after either DTP or MMR). Her pandering has probably been the main reason that herd immunity to pertussis has gone down, and that several babies have died (over a dozen each year in USA alone). The blood is on her hands:
http://www.geocities.com/issues_in_immunization/fearmongers/barbara_loe_fisher.htm

Oh, wait, the figure above isn’t exactly comparable… the amount above is for lobbying alone–it doesn’t include the drug companies’ political campaign contributions, in the United States.

Here’s another figure that might give a small idea of the pharmaceutical industry’s global clout –the amount spent on marketing (and “administrative costs”) by the 11 biggest drug companies in 2004: $100 billion

And here’s what they reported spending on research and development that year:
$50 billion

During the Second World War, when the Department of Defense used the preservative, THIMEROSAL in vaccines on soldiers, it required Lilly to label it “poison.”

In 1967, a study in Applied Microbiology found that thimerosal killed mice when added to injected vaccines. Four years later, Lilly’s own studies discerned that thimerosal was “toxic to tissue cells” in concentrations as low as one part per million — 100 times weaker than the concentration in a typical vaccine. Even so, the company continued to promote thimerosal as “nontoxic” and also incorporated it into topical disinfectants. In 1977, ten babies at a Toronto hospital died when an antiseptic preserved with thimerosal was dabbed onto their umbilical cords.

In 1982, the FDA proposed a ban on over-the-counter products that contained thimerosal, and in 1991 the agency considered banning it from animal vaccines. But tragically, that same year, the CDC recommended that infants be injected with a series of mercury-laced vaccines. Newborns would be vaccinated for hepatitis B within twenty-four hours of birth, and two-month-old infants would be immunized for haemophilus influenza B and diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis.

The drug industry knew the additional vaccines posed a danger. The same year that the CDC approved the new vaccines, Dr. Maurice Hilleman, one of the fathers of Merck’s vaccine programs, warned the company that six-month-olds who were administered the shots would suffer dangerous exposure to mercury. He recommended that thimerosal be discontinued, “especially when used on infants and children,” noting that the industry knew of nontoxic alternatives. “The best way to go,” he added, “is to switch to dispensing the actual vaccines without adding preservatives.”…

It doesn’t even make any sense!

What are you still promoting the idea that giving $10 to $30 vaccines is more profitable to pharmaceuticals than the costs of hospitalizations?

Did you even look at the two papers I posted?