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		<title>By: Joanna</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/4/comment-page-1#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a mom, trying to sort out good, unbiased, information.  Maybe I didn&#039;t pay enough attention during my public school science classes, but what is empirical evidence, and why is it important?  If I were to post a link to a study on my own blog (not that I have one) and wanted to list the ways the study met the standards of ing empirical evidence, what standards would I list?  Is this information generally included in any published report?  Would those standards include revealing the funding source of the study, and/or the other financial interests of any funding source?  Thank you in advance for clarifying the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a mom, trying to sort out good, unbiased, information.  Maybe I didn&#8217;t pay enough attention during my public school science classes, but what is empirical evidence, and why is it important?  If I were to post a link to a study on my own blog (not that I have one) and wanted to list the ways the study met the standards of ing empirical evidence, what standards would I list?  Is this information generally included in any published report?  Would those standards include revealing the funding source of the study, and/or the other financial interests of any funding source?  Thank you in advance for clarifying the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/4/comment-page-1#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...There are just too many different types for it &quot;(autism) &quot;to be anything but environmental.&quot;

At this point the safest thing may be that there are too many types for it to be one or the same thing. Genetics might matter in shedding light not only on direct causation, but on collateral physical effects,  reactions and ailments. Just how I see it, since some things that appear to be significant issues of some kids on the spectrum are not my kid&#039;s, and vice versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;There are just too many different types for it &#8220;(autism) &#8220;to be anything but environmental.&#8221;</p>
<p>At this point the safest thing may be that there are too many types for it to be one or the same thing. Genetics might matter in shedding light not only on direct causation, but on collateral physical effects,  reactions and ailments. Just how I see it, since some things that appear to be significant issues of some kids on the spectrum are not my kid&#8217;s, and vice versa.</p>
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		<title>By: Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/4/comment-page-1#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Navi,

Perhaps genetics, environmental factors, virus&#039; or even various combinations of the above  can result in the variety of conditions we call Autism.   Why does there have to be one cause?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Navi,</p>
<p>Perhaps genetics, environmental factors, virus&#8217; or even various combinations of the above  can result in the variety of conditions we call Autism.   Why does there have to be one cause?</p>
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		<title>By: navi</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/4/comment-page-1#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>navi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sigh.

thimerosal has been largely reduced in most vaccines in the US as of 2002. A few vaccines do still have it, such as the flu vaccine. 

Frankly I&#039;d like to see a study of the percentage of children with adverse reactions to the vaccine that do and don&#039;t have autism. Adverse reactions are extremely rare, but do happen and it seems everyone who is convinced those naughty vaccines caused autism has a child that got violently ill supposedly immediately after getting the shot (my son didn&#039;t, I don&#039;t think vaccines caused his autism.  But then he has bipolar disorder and adhd in his family which are both somewhat genetic, so maybe I&#039;m more inclined to believe its genetics than most. I also have a child that hugs me to the point it&#039;s annoying sometimes, so maybe that&#039;s why I&#039;m not shocked and worried as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sigh.</p>
<p>thimerosal has been largely reduced in most vaccines in the US as of 2002. A few vaccines do still have it, such as the flu vaccine. </p>
<p>Frankly I&#8217;d like to see a study of the percentage of children with adverse reactions to the vaccine that do and don&#8217;t have autism. Adverse reactions are extremely rare, but do happen and it seems everyone who is convinced those naughty vaccines caused autism has a child that got violently ill supposedly immediately after getting the shot (my son didn&#8217;t, I don&#8217;t think vaccines caused his autism.  But then he has bipolar disorder and adhd in his family which are both somewhat genetic, so maybe I&#8217;m more inclined to believe its genetics than most. I also have a child that hugs me to the point it&#8217;s annoying sometimes, so maybe that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m not shocked and worried as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/4/comment-page-1#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy posting as Kev is clearly John Best (or some other troll) impersonating Kev. Over at Blogger, that&#039;s a violation of TOS. I think it&#039;s sufficient grounds for removal of the messages.

&lt;em&gt;Ed.,  Done!&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy posting as Kev is clearly John Best (or some other troll) impersonating Kev. Over at Blogger, that&#8217;s a violation of TOS. I think it&#8217;s sufficient grounds for removal of the messages.</p>
<p><em>Ed.,  Done!</em></p>
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		<title>By: John Fryer</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/4/comment-page-1#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
Welcome to the fray.
Fifteen years ago I met my first autism child and felt lost. There is absolutely nothing to show why the person has learning problems or how to overcome them.
Chemical illness is for the most part incurable. For this reason we need to know what the chemical is and how to stop it.
Fifteen years ago many syndromes were of unknown origin. One by one they turn out to be chemical related. Guillain Barre Syndrome and Reyes Syndrome etc.
There is no reason to suspect that autism will be any different. There are just too many different types for it to be anything but environmental. 
Mercury is still (2007) in childrens vaccines so how can we do any head counts yet to see if it is going down?
And how can we blame it if it is protected from blame?
John Fryer Chemist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
Welcome to the fray.<br />
Fifteen years ago I met my first autism child and felt lost. There is absolutely nothing to show why the person has learning problems or how to overcome them.<br />
Chemical illness is for the most part incurable. For this reason we need to know what the chemical is and how to stop it.<br />
Fifteen years ago many syndromes were of unknown origin. One by one they turn out to be chemical related. Guillain Barre Syndrome and Reyes Syndrome etc.<br />
There is no reason to suspect that autism will be any different. There are just too many different types for it to be anything but environmental.<br />
Mercury is still (2007) in childrens vaccines so how can we do any head counts yet to see if it is going down?<br />
And how can we blame it if it is protected from blame?<br />
John Fryer Chemist</p>
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		<title>By: Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/4/comment-page-1#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph,

&quot;If someone does not understand what evidence-based means, that would be Harold. Would the FDA, for example, approve a drug based on a non-randomized trial with no blinding? How about 100 such trials?&quot;

The FDA approves drugs that have not been adequately tested for safety and efficacy, so you should be careful with that argument.  

They also approve drugs for use against populations that were never tested during trials,.  They also approve vaccines all the time without testing for safety against placebo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph,</p>
<p>&#8220;If someone does not understand what evidence-based means, that would be Harold. Would the FDA, for example, approve a drug based on a non-randomized trial with no blinding? How about 100 such trials?&#8221;</p>
<p>The FDA approves drugs that have not been adequately tested for safety and efficacy, so you should be careful with that argument.  </p>
<p>They also approve drugs for use against populations that were never tested during trials,.  They also approve vaccines all the time without testing for safety against placebo.</p>
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		<title>By: Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/4/comment-page-1#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Club166,

I think a lot more blame should go to both the medical and scientific community on this one.  If the scientific/medical community didn&#039;t have so many bad studies of their own, or they would address the major acknowledged conflicts of interest, they might be able to stem the tide of the pseudo scientists.

As it is, they still continue to publish and then support poor studies.  Only years later do they sometimes  admit the problems, but only after plugging the next study.  That does not inspire any confidence in the community or in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Club166,</p>
<p>I think a lot more blame should go to both the medical and scientific community on this one.  If the scientific/medical community didn&#8217;t have so many bad studies of their own, or they would address the major acknowledged conflicts of interest, they might be able to stem the tide of the pseudo scientists.</p>
<p>As it is, they still continue to publish and then support poor studies.  Only years later do they sometimes  admit the problems, but only after plugging the next study.  That does not inspire any confidence in the community or in the process.</p>
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		<title>By: isles</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/4/comment-page-1#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>isles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was pleasantly surprised  by the story about the Florida clinic.  Professionals not bowing and scraping to the squeaky wheels of vaccine hate!  How novel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was pleasantly surprised  by the story about the Florida clinic.  Professionals not bowing and scraping to the squeaky wheels of vaccine hate!  How novel!</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Dawson</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/4/comment-page-1#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mr Doherty,

While this appears to be annoying and unacceptable to important and influential &quot;autism advocates&quot; such as yourself, criticism is an essential aspect of science, as is accurate reference to primary sources. 

Everything in the post I made above (including the foundation for the question for Dr Wilder) can be verified by reading the peer-reviewed literature. But it seems that you judge at least some of the major papers in the ABA literature in autism to be a &quot;diatribe&quot; that should be censored.

That is, you are forcefully opposed to, and determine to destroy the reputation of, anyone who has the gall to even mention what is reported in the peer-reviewed literature--unless it is something you agree with. 

This is all very helpful in illuminating the standards and complex needs of Canada&#039;s important and powerful &quot;autism advocates.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mr Doherty,</p>
<p>While this appears to be annoying and unacceptable to important and influential &#8220;autism advocates&#8221; such as yourself, criticism is an essential aspect of science, as is accurate reference to primary sources. </p>
<p>Everything in the post I made above (including the foundation for the question for Dr Wilder) can be verified by reading the peer-reviewed literature. But it seems that you judge at least some of the major papers in the ABA literature in autism to be a &#8220;diatribe&#8221; that should be censored.</p>
<p>That is, you are forcefully opposed to, and determine to destroy the reputation of, anyone who has the gall to even mention what is reported in the peer-reviewed literature&#8211;unless it is something you agree with. </p>
<p>This is all very helpful in illuminating the standards and complex needs of Canada&#8217;s important and powerful &#8220;autism advocates.&#8221;</p>
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