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	<title>Comments on: Attorney Clifford Shoemaker v. bloggers</title>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/48/comment-page-1#comment-777</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public Citizen--

thank you very much for this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public Citizen&#8211;</p>
<p>thank you very much for this!</p>
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		<title>By: Public Citizen</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/48/comment-page-1#comment-774</link>
		<dc:creator>Public Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who have been following the case of Sykes v. Bayer, we have an update. This is the case in which disagreement over whether mercury in medicines causes autism was turned into a discovery witch hunt. Kathleen Seidel backs her position regarding autism on a Web site devoted to issues involving autism, disability and other topics.  Among other things, her Web site criticizes Lisa Sykes, who is suing Bayer and believes mercury does cause autism.

Recall that on April 21, the court quashed an incredibly broad subpoena from attorney Clifford Shoemaker, who represents Sykes. Shoemaker did not just request that Seidel release her correspondence with Bayer; he also demanded all of her documents pertaining to the issues she has written about on her Web site, as well as all of her correspondence with attorneys, physicians, the federal government, non-governmental political organizations, religious groups, and scientific and academic boards. To make matters worse, Shoemaker tried to defend his discovery demands by accusing Seidel and Bayer of conspiring to defame Sykes. 

On Tuesday evening, Public Citizen, on behalf of Seidel, filed papers arguing that sanctions against Shoemaker were appropriate because the requests in his subpoena were irrelevant to the lawsuit against Bayer and “abusive and burdensome.” In its brief, Public Citizen cites the Supreme Court case Reno v. ACLU to support its argument that anyone can present “findings and conclusions” freely on the Internet if he or she so chooses, and argues that the use of discovery to harass a critic warrants sanctions. For more information, visit http://www.citizen.org/litigation/forms/cases/CaseDetails.cfm?cID=477.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who have been following the case of Sykes v. Bayer, we have an update. This is the case in which disagreement over whether mercury in medicines causes autism was turned into a discovery witch hunt. Kathleen Seidel backs her position regarding autism on a Web site devoted to issues involving autism, disability and other topics.  Among other things, her Web site criticizes Lisa Sykes, who is suing Bayer and believes mercury does cause autism.</p>
<p>Recall that on April 21, the court quashed an incredibly broad subpoena from attorney Clifford Shoemaker, who represents Sykes. Shoemaker did not just request that Seidel release her correspondence with Bayer; he also demanded all of her documents pertaining to the issues she has written about on her Web site, as well as all of her correspondence with attorneys, physicians, the federal government, non-governmental political organizations, religious groups, and scientific and academic boards. To make matters worse, Shoemaker tried to defend his discovery demands by accusing Seidel and Bayer of conspiring to defame Sykes. </p>
<p>On Tuesday evening, Public Citizen, on behalf of Seidel, filed papers arguing that sanctions against Shoemaker were appropriate because the requests in his subpoena were irrelevant to the lawsuit against Bayer and “abusive and burdensome.” In its brief, Public Citizen cites the Supreme Court case Reno v. ACLU to support its argument that anyone can present “findings and conclusions” freely on the Internet if he or she so chooses, and argues that the use of discovery to harass a critic warrants sanctions. For more information, visit <a href="http://www.citizen.org/litigation/forms/cases/CaseDetails.cfm?cID=477" rel="nofollow">http://www.citizen.org/litigation/forms/cases/CaseDetails.cfm?cID=477</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: autblog</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/48/comment-page-1#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator>autblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Interesting won&#039;t be back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Interesting won&#8217;t be back.</p>
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		<title>By: HCN</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/48/comment-page-1#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator>HCN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Case in point, Mr/Ms Interesting:  check out her posting:
http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/149/

Go to the bottom and click on the US Court of Federal Claims links.  Please tell us which one of those are &quot;private&quot; information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Case in point, Mr/Ms Interesting:  check out her posting:<br />
<a href="http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/149/" rel="nofollow">http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/149/</a></p>
<p>Go to the bottom and click on the US Court of Federal Claims links.  Please tell us which one of those are &#8220;private&#8221; information.</p>
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		<title>By: HCN</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/48/comment-page-1#comment-473</link>
		<dc:creator>HCN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Ms. Seidel did was look into public records to discover how much Shoemaker makes from his vaccine litigation.  Do you understand that this information was not personal information but available in sources accessible to almost everyone?

How does accessing this public information make her a party to the lawsuit of the Sykes versus a pharmaceutical company?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Ms. Seidel did was look into public records to discover how much Shoemaker makes from his vaccine litigation.  Do you understand that this information was not personal information but available in sources accessible to almost everyone?</p>
<p>How does accessing this public information make her a party to the lawsuit of the Sykes versus a pharmaceutical company?</p>
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		<title>By: Interesting</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/48/comment-page-1#comment-472</link>
		<dc:creator>Interesting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how you try and make it seem like Mr. Shoemaker is doing something wrong when he obviously is defending himself against Kathleen Seidel...  If she wants to look into his personal information and post it for everyone to see, shouldn&#039;t he be allowed the same right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how you try and make it seem like Mr. Shoemaker is doing something wrong when he obviously is defending himself against Kathleen Seidel&#8230;  If she wants to look into his personal information and post it for everyone to see, shouldn&#8217;t he be allowed the same right?</p>
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		<title>By: Justthisguy</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/48/comment-page-1#comment-471</link>
		<dc:creator>Justthisguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, arms smuggling is, I think, a noble occupation, trying to make sure that people are armed against their (usually criminal) governments.

That aside, I concur, Sir, absolutely!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, arms smuggling is, I think, a noble occupation, trying to make sure that people are armed against their (usually criminal) governments.</p>
<p>That aside, I concur, Sir, absolutely!</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Ditz</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/48/comment-page-1#comment-469</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz Ditz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of the 100+ bloggers mentioned in item 5 of the subpoena.

I am keeping a running list of responses to the Seidel subpoena at &lt;a href=&quot;http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2008/04/kathleen-seidel.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I Speak of Dreams&lt;/a&gt;.  I&#039;ve added your blog.

Oddly, only one blogger has negative things to say about Ms. Seidel.

and Joe?  You made me spit coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of the 100+ bloggers mentioned in item 5 of the subpoena.</p>
<p>I am keeping a running list of responses to the Seidel subpoena at <a href="http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2008/04/kathleen-seidel.html" rel="nofollow">I Speak of Dreams</a>.  I&#8217;ve added your blog.</p>
<p>Oddly, only one blogger has negative things to say about Ms. Seidel.</p>
<p>and Joe?  You made me spit coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: Club 166</title>
		<link>http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/48/comment-page-1#comment-468</link>
		<dc:creator>Club 166</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take exception to your description of lawyers as being slightly above arms smugglers and crack whores.

I&#039;ve taken care of some crack whores who are basically decent people.

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take exception to your description of lawyers as being slightly above arms smugglers and crack whores.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve taken care of some crack whores who are basically decent people.</p>
<p>Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Seidel Has Received a Sub-Poena: Streisand, Spartacus, Shoemaker, They Start with S and End the Same Way &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen Seidel Has Received a Sub-Poena: Streisand, Spartacus, Shoemaker, They Start with S and End the Same Way &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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